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valve adjustment and jumping timing 1 tooth

Postby stoneagemaxx » Tue Nov 12, 2013 1:10 am

sorry to bring this up again but i just can't find this anywhere trying to get tis done in the morning tanks
91 d250. 2wd std cab i/c convert 3.07 rears autometer guages htt stage 3 turbo 47rh convert 2 manualy controled od an lockup turns on fuel screw .5 on smoke screw and fuel pin rotated 3800gsk timing jumped 1 tooth retarded on pump settings for now resealed ip to come in spring he351ve and full 4 in ex hopefully injectors coolertubz for the other rig thanks Tim
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Re: valve adjustment and jumping timing 1 tooth

Postby AHineman » Tue Nov 12, 2013 6:05 pm

http://www.1stgen.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=13695&start=60


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I've got a pic in this thread of how the timing gear should look when you're done skipping a tooth.
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Re: valve adjustment and jumping timing 1 tooth

Postby stoneagemaxx » Tue Nov 12, 2013 10:55 pm

ethanks you happen to know where the valves should be set at? thanks again

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91 d250. 2wd std cab i/c convert 3.07 rears autometer guages htt stage 3 turbo 47rh convert 2 manualy controled od an lockup turns on fuel screw .5 on smoke screw and fuel pin rotated 3800gsk timing jumped 1 tooth retarded on pump settings for now resealed ip to come in spring he351ve and full 4 in ex hopefully injectors coolertubz for the other rig thanks Tim
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Re: valve adjustment and jumping timing 1 tooth

Postby CumminsPower59 » Tue Nov 12, 2013 11:35 pm

Spec is .010 intake and .020 exhaust. Some run 8/18 or 10/18, its mainly personal preference ;)
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Re: valve adjustment and jumping timing 1 tooth

Postby stoneagemaxx » Wed Nov 13, 2013 5:24 pm

ok having it timed +1 tooth and multiple different locations of the ip timing im getting nothing but cranking fuel lines bleed multiple times i get white smoke but no fire just resealed the pump and put in a 3800 gsk while resealing a friend from bosch helped me do it doesn't matter where the throttle is either we did make sure the throttle was indexed correctly all settings are how they were prior to disassembly and fss is hooked up and operational kinda lost here
91 d250. 2wd std cab i/c convert 3.07 rears autometer guages htt stage 3 turbo 47rh convert 2 manualy controled od an lockup turns on fuel screw .5 on smoke screw and fuel pin rotated 3800gsk timing jumped 1 tooth retarded on pump settings for now resealed ip to come in spring he351ve and full 4 in ex hopefully injectors coolertubz for the other rig thanks Tim
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Re: valve adjustment and jumping timing 1 tooth

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Wed Nov 13, 2013 6:46 pm

Sounds to me like the timing slipped. Like they keyway fell out.
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Re: valve adjustment and jumping timing 1 tooth

Postby AHineman » Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:31 pm

When messing around with my timing with degreed keys and such, I ended up getting my timing to around 6*s once (had a little brain fart with which way the degreed key needed to be :oops: ). It would blow white smoke rings and half hit every once in a while when cranking it over, but not start. If the key didn't fall out like RC said, you may have retarted it a tooth and not advanced it.
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Re: valve adjustment and jumping timing 1 tooth

Postby stoneagemaxx » Thu Nov 14, 2013 9:20 am

the o the c are in line im going to check the key now thanks again everyone
91 d250. 2wd std cab i/c convert 3.07 rears autometer guages htt stage 3 turbo 47rh convert 2 manualy controled od an lockup turns on fuel screw .5 on smoke screw and fuel pin rotated 3800gsk timing jumped 1 tooth retarded on pump settings for now resealed ip to come in spring he351ve and full 4 in ex hopefully injectors coolertubz for the other rig thanks Tim
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Re: valve adjustment and jumping timing 1 tooth

Postby stoneagemaxx » Thu Nov 14, 2013 10:27 pm

the key did fall out reinstalled it (made sure it was there) re bleed the injectors and im still getting just white smoke more though im not quite sure whats going on, the power to the pump is there its definelty getting fuel bleed it two more times since the key was verified went though and adjusted the valve lash have tried various throttle positions
91 d250. 2wd std cab i/c convert 3.07 rears autometer guages htt stage 3 turbo 47rh convert 2 manualy controled od an lockup turns on fuel screw .5 on smoke screw and fuel pin rotated 3800gsk timing jumped 1 tooth retarded on pump settings for now resealed ip to come in spring he351ve and full 4 in ex hopefully injectors coolertubz for the other rig thanks Tim
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Re: valve adjustment and jumping timing 1 tooth

Postby stoneagemaxx » Tue Nov 19, 2013 6:37 pm

It runs just a few more things not so much luck with putting the front cover seal on the crank ithe chinsey instsll ring just dosent seam to be cutting it any tips would be great thsnks for the help
91 d250. 2wd std cab i/c convert 3.07 rears autometer guages htt stage 3 turbo 47rh convert 2 manualy controled od an lockup turns on fuel screw .5 on smoke screw and fuel pin rotated 3800gsk timing jumped 1 tooth retarded on pump settings for now resealed ip to come in spring he351ve and full 4 in ex hopefully injectors coolertubz for the other rig thanks Tim
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Re: valve adjustment and jumping timing 1 tooth

Postby stoneagemaxx01 » Sun Nov 24, 2013 10:52 am

So I haven't been able to get it indexed right followed 3 or 4 of the topics on here and another that I found on here when I'm happy with the idle screw if you put in park and hold the brakes in drive it still ideal decent but nothing flooring it any tips of went throughout the throttle lever range what I think is one spline to the next I've went both ways and I'm stumped
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