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Postby directinjktn1stgen » Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:23 pm

just completed a cam swap saturday and moved IP adv. 1 tooth and have the it bumped maybe 1/16" i was playing with the timing yesterday still wondering how everybody else gets there timing dialed in with out a timing light and if yall unplug the KSB solenoid or leave it for additonal timing :bh:

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Re: timing

Postby BC847 » Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:31 pm

Initial impressions of the cam?
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Re: timing

Postby directinjktn1stgen » Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:35 pm

smoke is gone and fuel screw is bottomed out and egts are about 750 800 WOT so i like quite abit im just kinda down on midrange to top end power thats why i was curious about the timing unless i just need a M3 and injectors ?
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Re: timing

Postby Sutter1stgen » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:08 pm

Which cam are you running? Along with which injectors? Stomp was kind enough to check my timing the other day with a light. It was no where near where I would have guessed. With it to the head at idle it was 14. With the ksb switched on I was at 21. This
After I added a m&h spacer. After that experience of watching someone check my timing with a light, I think I'll give up on guessing hahaha. I was told a tooth is worth 10 degrees, so if I jump a tooth with my timing to the head I'd be at 24 degrees I suppose. Ksb might bring me up to 31! If my basic mathematics is on par.

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Re: timing

Postby BILTIT » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:15 pm

How does one check it with a light?
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Re: timing

Postby Sutter1stgen » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:45 pm

Stomp used what looked like a digital timing light hooked up to this clamp looking sensor that went around the number one injector line. Quite simple. I'm sure you could buy the associated hardware to go along with a standard timing light. It might be something worth looking into. I'm actually kinda interested. He also marked Top Dead Center on my crank for future references. Who would of ever though a diesel guy would want a timing light???? Now that I'm thinking about it, a well informed one would.

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Re: timing

Postby BC847 » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:30 pm

I've got a light. Been as far as hooking it up and toying with it on the truck.

I've never gotten around to making and installing a degree-tape around the harmonic damper. :oops:

Screw it. I'm setting the timing based on dyno graphs. Then I'll install the tape and see where it's at. (I said that last time :roll: ).
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Re: timing

Postby directinjktn1stgen » Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:33 am

i have stock injectors stock fuel pin with a hamilton 181/210 im goin to un hook the ksb this morning just to see if does run better

i think we ought both just install those tapes on both trucks and knock it out one day where did you purchase yours ? :wrench:
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Re: timing

Postby Sutter1stgen » Wed Sep 19, 2012 6:35 am

Thanks. Is your truck intercooled or non intercooled?
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Re: timing

Postby directinjktn1stgen » Wed Sep 19, 2012 3:09 pm

Intercooled
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Re: timing

Postby Sutter1stgen » Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:14 pm

That explains it. A buddy of mine has a 93' and with the pump turned all the way up and with a fuel pin, he could only hit a 1000 degrees. Thats a pretty good drop in temps. Then again any drop is a good drop when it comes to egts.

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Re: timing

Postby directinjktn1stgen » Wed Sep 19, 2012 5:45 pm

yesir that is for sure how do yall get ahold of the folks at M&H to get one of them shinny M3 fuel pins
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Re: timing

Postby Sutter1stgen » Wed Sep 19, 2012 11:13 pm

By email. It's the only way. Really simple, I just ordered a timing spacer through them.
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Re: timing

Postby revemup15 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:18 am

Dont waste money on a fuel pin
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Re: timing

Postby ellis93 » Thu Sep 20, 2012 9:57 am

revemup15 wrote:Dont waste money on a fuel pin

Reasons?
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