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Industrial VE pump question

Postby hydroshok » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:35 pm

I bought a 24 valve motor to go in my 1st gen, but I really want to go with a mechanical pump. I purchased a bunch of parts recently to do the swap, but since I got the industrial VE; I wonder which route would be better (180HP P7100 or VE). Does anyone know if the threads would match up from the VP44 so I don't have to buy lines or any info on these industrial pumps? A few pics are below. Thanks!

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Re: Industrial VE pump question

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:52 pm

Turboram, just ve pumped a 24 valve..... pm him and he should be able to answer some of those questions.
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Re: Industrial VE pump question

Postby dazedandconfused » Tue Apr 02, 2013 5:57 pm

Some of the industrial pumps have fixed governors as well which you may want to check.
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Re: Industrial VE pump question

Postby turboram » Tue Apr 02, 2013 6:03 pm

Front covers are different and cam must be pulled to change...... the ve will work with the 24v lines if you install 10x1.5 heli coils on the delivery valves.... i have seen p pumped 24v with vp lines re bent, didn't look good but did the job
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Re: Industrial VE pump question

Postby hydroshok » Tue Apr 02, 2013 7:21 pm

Thanks guys. I might just sell it if the cam and front cover have to be swapped though. Do I have to rip into it to check the governor or is there somewhere I can check the numbers on it to tell?
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Re: Industrial VE pump question

Postby Mark Nixon » Tue Apr 02, 2013 10:04 pm

turboram wrote:Front covers are different and cam must be pulled to change...... the ve will work with the 24v lines if you install 10x1.5 heli coils on the delivery valves.... i have seen p pumped 24v with vp lines re bent, didn't look good but did the job

You and I must think alike, because I successfully adapted a line to try this with over a year ago.
My way of doing it involved using heat to relax the coils within a mag-style (14mm) lug nut, cooled them, shortened to length and thread them into the VP lines with a dab of loctite.
I was going to use a Non-Intercooled VE, since the lines only needed very minor tweaking to fit.

This was in the beginning stages of R&D towards trying to adapt a VE onto a 6.7, while using a VP head.

I still say it's doable without any real special tools, but I sidelined the idea for lack of a proper place to do it and keep it all clean.
Hell, I'd even bought METRIC drill bits to do the case bolts and the early dowel pin holes.

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Re: Industrial VE pump question

Postby turboram » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:33 am

The 10x1.5 heli coil will turn on grip the threads and just shorten it with a side snips
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Re: Industrial VE pump question

Postby ellis93 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:45 am

RCCUMMINS89 wrote:Turboram, just ve pumped a 24 valve..... pm him and he should be able to answer some of those questions.

Alright.....sounds awesome,so where's the build tread at :scratch:
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Re: Industrial VE pump question

Postby RCCUMMINS89 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:06 am

he has 2.

viewtopic.php?f=4&t=14362 that's his dual feed. the other was something else and I'm lazy.
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Re: Industrial VE pump question

Postby Mark Nixon » Wed Apr 03, 2013 8:58 am

ellis93 wrote:Alright.....sounds awesome,so where's the build tread at :scratch:

Not everyone likes to take pics or discuss their rides, much less every aspect of their life.
I've done a lot of things with vehicles that I haven't discussed on here, not that I don't like to "share", just that I don't think it's relevant.

Maybe that's why I hate Fakebook. People gossip enough, no need to fuel the fire.:roll:

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Re: Industrial VE pump question

Postby ellis93 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 11:05 am

Mark Nixon wrote:
ellis93 wrote:Alright.....sounds awesome,so where's the build tread at :scratch:

Not everyone likes to take pics or discuss their rides, much less every aspect of their life.
I've done a lot of things with vehicles that I haven't discussed on here, not that I don't like to "share", just that I don't think it's relevant.

Maybe that's why I hate Fakebook. People gossip enough, no need to fuel the fire.:roll:

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Good, I'm not asking about all that crap,asking if he had a build tread.
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Re: Industrial VE pump question

Postby Mark Nixon » Wed Apr 03, 2013 3:57 pm

ellis93 wrote:Good, I'm not asking about all that crap,asking if he had a build tread.

Use the Search Function. :lol:

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Re: Industrial VE pump question

Postby ellis93 » Wed Apr 03, 2013 4:51 pm

Mark Nixon wrote:
ellis93 wrote:Good, I'm not asking about all that crap,asking if he had a build tread.

Use the Search Function. :lol:

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Re: Industrial VE pump question

Postby PToombs » Thu Apr 04, 2013 4:29 pm

What tread? On the bottom of your shoe? or the tires? :?
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Re: Industrial VE pump question

Postby turboram » Thu Apr 04, 2013 6:27 pm

What would you guys like to know? Didn't think anyone cared about my Frankenstein's monster crap. Or as its been called around here Frankenstamm's monster :mrgreen: a little play on my last name
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