pros and cons of runnin wmo

[james-93-12valve]

pros and cons of runnin wmo

does runnin wmo clog up your fuel filter

[peobryant]

I think it is Bio Diesel that will clog your filters when you first start using it. Ace would be the guy to talk to about running WMO. He runs it in both his 1st and 3rd gen. I think it just adds lubrication that was taken out when ULSD became the standard for diesel fuel.

[12valve350]

ive used WMO before and after the 3rd tank or so it made my truck idle like it was heavily camed, sounded neat but it got to the point where it wouldnt idle, i switched back to 100% diesel and its back to normal. Just my 2 cents

[peobryant]

How did you filter the WMO?

[burnt_servo]

before a person runs anything other than diesel through their engine some thing needs to be done ,

fill a pop tester with the fuel you are going to be using , and " pop test " one of your injectors with it .

if you don't get a fine mist out of it , DON"T USE IT .

i've found with vw injectors that anything over 30% veg oil / 70% diesel , and you get a stream of liquid , not a spray . ( that was at room temp , heated warmer and the outcome would change )

that stream of liquid will destroy your engine , because it will still be a burning liquid as it hits the cylinder walls , and going into the rings , still burning , which in turn also burns up the engine oil around the rings .
not a good thing .

so it is not a matter of will it plug filters , but a matter of how much damage will you be doing to your engine .

[Redneckintraining]

it can be burned but you have to start and stop the truck on diesel because the engine doesn't make enough heat to completely burn all the oil when cold. So it starts coking up the injectors or what not. However once the truck is warmed up it can burn the oil no problem.So you will need to fun a two tank setup.Heating the oil to thin it out allowing the lift pump to pick it up will also help.Speaking of the lift pump, you may need to upgrade to the light pressure piston pump(for the P pumped 4bt I think).the diaphragm pump doesn't like the oil.

[Ace]

Are you talking about mixing it with #2 diesel fuel or running straight waste motor oil?

[james-93-12valve]

Ace i ment like half and half sorry wats #2 diesel is it just ulsd

[peobryant]

Ace i ment like half and half sorry wats #2 diesel is it just ulsd

Yeah, #2 is the standard diesel fuel which is ULSD. #1 is the winter blend diesel which has additives in it to prevent gelling.

[Ace]

fill a pop tester with the fuel you are going to be using , and " pop test " one of your injectors with it .

if you don't get a fine mist out of it , DON"T USE IT .

i've found with vw injectors that anything over 30% veg oil / 70% diesel , and you get a stream of liquid , not a spray...

Sounds good to me. Based on that advice, I'd say half and half would be way too much. Personally I run my WMO cocktail at about 60-to-1. That's double the consensus dose most are reporting for 2-stroke adds.

I heard a story years ago about a stationary genset that ran straight WMO through an non-AFC VE for many years with no problem. They just changed the fuel filter whenever it stalled out, bled the injectors and pressed on. But I wouldn't try it on a road-driven vehicle.

[matchew]

I've tried veggie and it cost me a fortune i maintainence and pump rebuilds...wmo doesn't hold the water like wvo, or so I've been told. I've also heard we need to be looking out for the smog police 'cause running any kind of motor oil is illegal. Far as I've heard the EPA doesn't like that at all...just my .02 not sure how anyone would get caught though.

[jwatso8]

my uncle runs WMO/ATF in his D250. mostly because he works at a trany shop
pros
i thank is its cheap/free, thats it.
cons
smokes like a train
runs hotter
crabons up the tips
he's on his 2nd set of injector, the oil keeps honing the tips out!
he uses a lot of fuel filters, he had one that plugged up and the pump pulled such a vacuum it crushed the filter.
metal shavings in the oil can distroy an injection pump or injectors

so if you run WMO filter, filter, filter!

[VMacKenzie]

Cut WMO and WVO with gasoline. For each gallon of WMO add about 1/2g gas, 1/3 gallon for WVO, then complete the tank with diesel. In hot summer weather use half that amount of gas. ALWAYS plug in and do NOT do it in cool to cold weather. I'd run a max of 30% WMO in a tank and 60-70% WVO, that would be for hot summer weather. Run less as weather cools and I wouldn't run anything once temps stay below the 50s.

Running ATF thru is a bad idea no matter, due to friction modifiers.

[Ace]

I run all kinds of W_O, ATF, power steering fluid, you name it. The commonrail fired right up and ran great on it at -18 last Wednesday morning. Gasoline under any circumstances OTOH, would be a very bad idea.

Additives - FMs, anti-oxidants, EP agents, etc. are normally consumed and precipitated out of lubricants by the time you drain them. That's why you drain and change them.

[Redneckintraining]

Do NOT MIX WMO and WVO.The oil will cause CHUNKS of the WVO to drop out of suspension.The WMO emulsifies the crap out the WVO.

Gasoline does seem like a good thing to put in anything with a heated tank.gasoline boils anywhere from 100-400*f.I have seen fuel boiling at temps as low as 140.So what happens when you heat it to 212*F?You will get alot of air in the lines or worse.